VOLUME 3

AN ANSWERE VNTO SIR THOMAS MORES DIALOGE

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and christ is gods. If my faith be stedfast in the promises that I haue in Christes bloud / I nede but to praye mi father in Christes name and he shall send me a legion of angels to helpe me: so that my faith is lorde ouer the angels and ouer all creatures to turne them vn to my soules health and my fathers honoure / and maye be subiecte vn to no creature / but vn to gods worde in oure sauioure Christe only. I may haue no trust therfore in the saintes. If ye saye / ye put no trust in them / but only put them in remembraunce of their dutie / as a man desyreth his neyboure to praye for him / remembring him of his dutie /and as when we desyre our brethern to helpe vs at oure nede. That is false / for ye put trust in all youre ceremonies and all youre holy dedes and in whosoeuer disgyseth him selfe and altereth his cote from the comune facion / ye and euen in the cotes of them that be not yet saintes / aftir youre doctrine.

165/17–18 law . . . whore. Cf. Exod. 20.14, Deut. 5.18, Heb. 13.4.

165/25–26 And to . . . for displeasure. Cf. CWM 6/1.311/32–34.

Yf a prest said masse in his gowne / wold ye not rise agenst him and slee him / and that for the false faith that ye haue in the other garmentes. For what honoure can those other garmentes doo to god moare then his gowne or profit vn to youre soules / seinge ye vnderstonde nought ther by? And therto in the collectes of saintes ye saye / saue me God and geue me euerlastinge life for the merites of this or that saint / euery man aftir his phantasie chosynge him some one sainte singularly to be saued by. With which collectes I praye you shew me how stondeth the deeth of Christe? Paul wold saye that Christ died in vayne if that doctrine were true.

165/30 gelded men. Although found in 1531 and 1573, Walter omits 165/S3: "Whether it were best that prestes were gelded."

And therto in as moch as ye saye / the saintes

166/5 haue layd virgens in their beddes. Leaders in the early church denounced the custom of "syneisakitism" or the cohabitation of a celibate man and woman. Some indeed slept together, ideally only in the literal sense. If they would not separate, Cyprian ordered them excommunicated. Cf. To Pomponius, Bishop of Dionysiana [sic] (AD C249) (Ep. 62 in PL 4.364–72; Ep. 4 in CSEL 3B.17–26; Ep. 61 in ANF 5.356–58). In Canon 3, Nicea I in 325 prohibited clerics from living with women who were not close female relatives, but its decree was not everywhere obeyed. Cf. Gratian, Decretum, Part 1, Dist. 32, Ch. 16 (CIC 1.121; 2NPNF 14.11). Jerome deplores the practice in his famous letter describing corrupt Roman society, To Eustochium, Ep. 22 (AD 384), Par. 14: "One house holds them and one chamber. They often occupy the same bed, and yet they call us suspicious if we fancy anything amiss." (PL 22.403; CSEL 54.162; 2NPNF 6.27). Also in the late 4c, John Chrysostom wrote two treatises against mulieres subintroductae : Against Those Men Cohabiting with Virgins and On the Necessity of Guarding Virginity (PG 47.495–532), in Jerome, Chrysostom, and Friends: Essays and Translations, tr. Elizabeth A. Clark, Studies in Women and Religion 1 (New York: Mellen, 1979) 164–246. Robert of Arbrissel (c1055–1117), a wandering preacher, slept among his female followers, for which he was rebuked by Marbod, Bishop of Rennes, Ep. 6 (PL 171.1481) and Geoffrey, Abbot at Vendome , Bk. 4, Ep. 47 (PL 157.182). Cf. Dyan Elliott, Spiritual Marriage : Sexual Abstinence in Medieval Wedlock (Princeton UP, 1993) 111n68. In 1100 Robert founded the abbey of Fontevrault on the Loire, where Eleanor of Aquitaine was later confined after she supported the revolt of her sons against Henry II. Separate houses for men and for women on the same land were jointly ruled by an abbess, as were Bridgittine monasteries such as Syon. Robert was beatified but never canonized. Cf. NCE 12.528–29; Jacqueline Smith, "Robert of Arbrissel: Procurator Mulierum," in Medieval Women, ed. Derek Baker (Oxford: Blackwell for the Ecclesiastical Historical Society, 1978) 175–84; D.D.R. Owen, Eleanor of Aquitaine: Queen and Legend (Oxford: Blackwell, 1993) 9.