VOLUME 3

AN ANSWERE VNTO SIR THOMAS MORES DIALOGE

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hateth and can doo no miracles to further it / But to hindre it / as he doeth with you. Reade the stories of youre popis and cardenales / & se whether the deuell hath not holpe them vn to their hie dignities. And loke whether youre holy bysshopes come any other wyse vn to their promocions / then by seruinge the deuell / in settinge all christendome at variaunce / in sheddynge bloude / in bringynge the comen wealth to tyranny and in teachinge christen princes to rule moare cruelly then did euer any hethen / contrary vn to the doctrine of christe.

And as for the turkes and sarasenes that ye speake of / I answere that they were christen once / at the lest waye for the most parte. And be cause they had no loue vn to the trouth to liue ther aftir as ye haue not / God did send them false miracles to carye them out of the right waye as ye be. And as for the Iewes / whi they byde out / is only because they haue sett vpp their awne rightewesnesse / as ye haue / and therfore can not admitte the rightewesnesse that is in Christes bloude / as ye can not and as ye haue for sworne it.

178/11 the host ys no sacryfyce. Cf. CWM 6/1.353/30. Tyndale contests the idea of Eucharist as sacrifice and proposes a "representative " view of the Lord's Supper for stirring memory and inciting repentant faith. For other references to sacraments, esp. the Eucharist, cf. 63/31, 15o/9nn. (JW)

178/12 signe and memoriall. For More's opposition to Tyndale's sacramentarianism, cf. CWM 8/1.301/24–25.

And when he saith / in that they haue miracles and the heretikes none / it is a sure signe that they be the true church and the heretikes not. Had ye gods word with youre miracles and the heretikes doctrine were with out / then it were true. But now because ye haue miracles with out gods worde / to confirme youre false imaginacions / and they which ye call heretikes haue Gods word confermed with miracles / fyve hundred yeares to gether / it is a sure

178/20 eatynge of the host. Frequency of reception of the Eucharist by the laity had diminished to the minimal communion at Easter as legislated by Lateran IV in 1215 or at Christmas, Easter, and Pentecost as encouraged by local synods. Aquinas argues that, although the paschal lamb was eaten once a year, manna had been eaten daily (Summa III, Q. 80, Art. 10, Reply to Obj. 2).

178/20–21 drinkynge of the cuppe. Perhaps in compensation for the withdrawal of the cup from the laity during the 12c, the host and chalice were elevated after the consecration for all to see from the late 12c (Rubin 70–72, 55). The followers of Jan Hus urged the restoration of the cup to the laity, but this practice was rejected by the Council of Constance in 1415, considered but not accepted by the Council of Basel in 1433, requested again at the Diet of Augsburg in 1530 and 1548, and at the Council of Trent in 1562. Reception from the cup was allowed in certain Roman dioceses of Central Europe in 1564 and to the whole Roman Church after Vatican II. For Constance and Basel, cf. Karl August Fink in Jedin and Dolan 4.456, 476; for Augsburg, cf. Erwin Iserloh in Jedin and Dolan 5.262, 291; for Trent, cf. Hubert Jedin in Jedin and Dolan 5.491, 497.