VOLUME 3

AN ANSWERE VNTO SIR THOMAS MORES DIALOGE

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KEY Commentary Side Textual Bibliographic Scriptural

Christe and of all his appostles / lat vs se the sophistrie where with they wold persuade it. One of thier hie reasons is this. The church / saye they / was before the heretikes / and the heretikes came euer out of the church and left it. And they were before all them which they now call heretikes and lutherans / and the lutheranes came out of them. &c. Wherfore they be the right church and the other heretikes in dede as they be called. Well /I will like wise dispute. First the right church was vnder Moses and Aaron & so forth in whose rowmes satt the scribes phareses and hye prestes in the time of Christ. And they were before Christe. And Christ and his apostles came out of them and departed from them and left them. Wherefore the scribes phareses and hie prestes were the right church / and Christ and his appostles and disciples heretikes and a damnable secte. And so the Iewes ar yet in the right waye and we in erroure. And of trueth if their blynd reason be good / then is this argument so to. For they be like and are both one thynge.

89/7–8 beleueth . . . beleue. Cf. CWM 6/1.62/13–19.

89/8 comen consent. CWM 6/1.62/18. Cf. Gogan 96–107, 160–63, 211–13, 217, 298–302. (JW)

89/13 Elias . . . Samary. Cf. 1 Kings 18.22. Tyndale finds the opposition between Catholics and reformers foreshadowed in Israel's widespread consent to the prophets of Baal, against whom Elijah stood alone as prophet of the Lord. (JW)

89/15–17 he proueth . . . done. For Dialogue Bk. 1, Ch. 6 thru 18, cf. CWM 6/1.63/4–110/23. More relies on human prudence to recognize false miracles, e.g., by Humphrey Duke of Gloucester (CWM 6/1.86/18ff) and "the kynges moder," either Lady Margaret Beaufort for Henry VII or Elizabeth of York for Henry VIII (CWM 6/1.87/26ff).

But in as moch as the kingdom of god stondeth not in wordes / as paul sayth .1. Co. iiij. but in power / therfore loke vn to the mary and pith of the thinges selfe / and lett vayne wordes passe. Vnder Abraham / Isaac / and Iacob was the church greate in faith and small in numbre / And as it encreased in numbre / so it decreased in faith vntyll the tyme of Moses. And out of those vnbeleuers god stered vpp Moses & brought them vnto the right faith agayne. And Moses left a glorious church and in faith and cleauinge vn to the word of god / and deliuered them vn to Iosuah Eleazer / Phineas and Caleb.

89/21 xvj. Tyndale skips nine chapters on miracles, Bk. 1, Ch. 7–15.

89/22 mayde of Ipswich. Cf. CWM 6/1.93/13–94/5. Supposedly, the Maid of Ipswich was possessed by the devil and the Maid of Kent (90/12n) was inspired by the Holy Spirit, but both experienced the same trances and disfigurements, proving the difficulty of distinguishing between true and false visionaries (Obedience T3v—T4). The authenticity of St. Peter's apparition at Westminster was also doubtful (Obedience T3v, PS 1.326n1; cf. Richard III, CWM 2.27/32–28/6 and n). (JB) More's description of the twelve-year-old daughter of Sir Roger Wentworth contains symptoms of an epileptic seizure. Cf. R.E. Hemphill, "Historical Witchcraft and Psychiatric Illness in Western Europe," Proceedings of the Royal Society of Medicine 59 (1966) 891–902; rpt. in Articles on Witchcraft, Magic and Demonology 3, ed. Brian P. Levack, Witch-Hunting in Early Modern Europe: General Studies (NewYork: Garland, 1992) 314. Diarmaid MacCulloch considers the Maid of Ipswich "a classic case of child hysteria and manipulation," Suffolk under the Tudors (Oxford: Clarendon, 1986) 145. After a cure attributed to Our Lady of Ipswich, Anne Wentworth became a Franciscan nun in London until the closing of the monasteries.

89/23–24 Moses . . . lorde. Cf. Deut. 13.1–3.

89/25–26 lienge . . . possyble. Cf. Matt. 24.24, Mark 13.22.