VOLUME 3

AN ANSWERE VNTO SIR THOMAS MORES DIALOGE

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warne them to amend & make heretikes of them and burne them. And besydes that / the pope hath mad a playne decre in which he commaundeth sayenge / though the pope synne neuer so greuously and draw with him to hell by his ensample thousandes innumerable / yet let no man be so hardye to rebuke him. For he is heed ouer all & none ouer him distinct .xl. Si papa.

An abhominable, wicked & deuilish decree.[[1573]

Ther to . . . papa. CWM 8/1.587/23–32. The second half of this passage [C7v, “And besydes that . . . Si papa”] is repeated at CWM 8/1.590/8–12. A sign of the absence of faith within the papal hierarchy is its suppression of those who would admonish its faults. In the medieval canonical tradition, a lively discussion centered on the problem in Gratian, Decretum, Part 1, Dist. 40, Ch. 6 (CIC 1.146). For Gratian, cf. [M6, “the lawes of the church” and commentary note]. The text stated that the pope was subject to no one's judgment, but it went on to make an exception, nisi deprehendatur a fide deuius, "unless he is found to have deviated from the faith." The commentators expanded considerably the meaning of "deviated from the faith" and thereby listed numerous cases of papal malfeasance that would be subject to judgment. Many came to designate a general council, representing the whole church, as the proper forum of such correction, even to the measure of deposing a recalcitrant pope. Cf. Brian Tierney, Foundations of the Conciliar Theory (Cambridge UP, 1955) 56–67.

And Paul saith Roma. xiij. let euery soule obey the hier powers that are ordeyned to punysh synne. The pope will not / ner let any of his.

4. [1531]

Rom. 13. [1531]

And Paul . . . of his. CWM 8/1.594/3–5; Rom. 13.1,4. Luther had attacked the claim of clerical immunity from prosecution for crime in his first broadside against "the three walls of the Romanists." He also declared perverse the canon forbidding the temporal power to punish "the spiritual estate" and appealed to Rom. 13.1 and 4, along with 1 Pet. 2.13–14, to justify the intervention of rulers to reform clerical abuses. Cf. To the Christian Nobility, 1520 (WA 6.407/9–411/7; LW 44.127–33).

Romans 13.1, 4

1 Peter 2.13–14

And Paul chargeth .1. Corin. v. if he that is a brother be an horekeper / a dronkerd / couetouse / an extorsioner or a raylar and so forth / that we haue no felowsheppe with him: No not so moch as to eate in his companie. But the pope with violence compelleth vs to haue soch in honoure / to receaue the sacramentes of them / to heare their masses and to beleue all they saye / and yet they wyll not lett vs se whether they saye trouth or no. And he compelleth .x. parishes to paye their tithes and offeringes vn to one soch to goo and runne at riott at their cost & to doo noughte therfore. And a thousand soch like doeth the pope contrarie vn to Christes doctrine.

5. [1531]

1. Cor. 5. [1531]

if he . . . companie. Cf. 1 Cor. 5.11. Answer has the AngloSaxon "horekeper"; NT has the Latinate "fornicator" (Wallis 352/23;TNT 248C).

1 Corinthians 5.11

The Pope is vtterly against the doctrine of Christ.[[1573]

And Paul . . . doctrine. CWM 8/1.595/35–596/8.

to receaue the sacramentes of them . . . doctrine. During the persecution by Diocletian (AD 303–5), several bishops in North Africa pretended to comply with the imperial decrees by handing over heretical books instead of the Scriptures to be burned. The ordinations performed by these bishops were contested , especially by Donatus, schismatic Bishop of Carthage (AD 313–47). Believing that they alone were the true church, the Donatists also required rebaptism of those who had received the rite from one outside their sect (NCE 4.1001–1003).

¶The argumentes where with the pope wold proue him selfe the church / are solued.

¶ The argumentes . . . solued. Cf. CWM 8/1.599/5–6.

Notwithstondinge because as they be all shauen they be all shamelesse to affirme that they by the right church & can not erre / though all the world seeth that not one of them is in the right waye and that they haue with vtter defiaunce forsaken both the doctrine and livinge of