VOLUME 3

AN ANSWERE VNTO SIR THOMAS MORES DIALOGE

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to heare them raue and rage as mad men. And therfore saith the scripture cursed is he that trusteth in man and maketh flesh his arme / that is to saye / his strength. And euen so cursed is he that hath no nother beleffe but because men so saye. Cursed were he that had no nother why to beleue then that I so saye. And even so cursed is he that beleueth only be cause the pope so saith / and so forth thorow oute all the men in the worlde.

cursed . . . arme. Jer. 17.5.

Jeremiah 17.5

strength] [1573], strengh [1531]

Cursed is he that trusteth in man.[[1573]

The historical ... worlde. Cf. CWM 8/2.742/4–743/18. Parts of this long passage are repeated below: [D6] But . . . therin at 8/2.752/5–14; [D6-6v] For . . . mad men is paraphrased at 8/2.760/29–32; [D6v] saith . . . worlde at 8/2.763/ 6–11.

¶The faith that dependeth of a nother mans mouth is weke.

The faith . . . weke. CWM 8/2.764/23–24.

If I haue no nother fealynge in my faith then because a man so saith / then is my faith faithlesse and frutelesse. For if I haue no nother felynge that lecherie is synne then that the pope so preacheth / whom I se before my face sett vppe in Rome a stues of .xx. or .xxx. thousand hores / takynge of every pece tribute yerly / and his bisshopes with all other his disciples folowynge the ensample mightily / and the pope therwith not content / but to sett vpp therto a stues of younge boyes agenst nature / the committers of which synne be burnt at a stake amonge the turkes / as Moses also commaundeth in his lawe / and the pope also to forbid all the spiritualltie / a multitude of .xl. or .l. hundred thousand to mary / & to geue them licence to kepe euery man his whore who so wyll: if I saye / I haue no nother felynge in my faith that lechery is synne then this mans preachinge / I thynke my faith shuld be to weake to beare moch frute. How coude I beleue a man that wold saye he loued me / if

Lecherye [1531]

If . . . nature. Cf. CWM 8/2.705/2–8n and 172/16. Ulrich von Hutten rejects Cisalpine sexual mores with righteous indignation : "Am I to cringe to these epicene priestlings? Must I keep my hands off these mincing sodomites and worship these lecherous popes . . .?" From Ep. 1161, To Erasmus, Ebernburg, 13 November 1520 (Allen 4.382/56–58; CWE 8.89/61–63). Tyndale's charge that Roman prostitutes numbered some 30,000 agrees with the report given by Francesco Delicado of Cordova, a resident of Rome after 1523. But a more careful analysis, based on the census of 1526–27, arrived at the number of 1,550 prostitutes, which was 3% of the population of Rome. Cf. Pio Pecchiai, Roma nel cinquecento (Bologna: Cappelli, 1984) 304. The bath-houses listed by Pecchiai (312ff) do not mention any that offered the service of "younge boyes agenst nature" [D6v], although the same author has evidence that the "vice of the Greeks" had made inroads in Renaissance Rome (317). Here Tyndale may be under the influence of the stereotypical charge of pederasty in the anti-Italian polemics of northern humanists. See Ingrid G. Rowland, "Revenge of the Regensburg Humanists, 1493," Sixteenth Century Journal 24 (1994) 307–22.

The abhomination of the Romish Church.[[1573]

stues . . . lawe. Cf. Lev. 20.13. The type of death penalty for sodomy is not specified; burning is the death penalty for marriage first to a mother and then to her daughter (verse 14).

Leviticus 20.13–14

.xl. or .l. hundred thousand. Tyndale claims that in his day there were four or five million clergy bound to celibacy in the Roman Church. This number, equaling 9% or 11% of the population ofWestern Europe, is much too high. In England about 2% of the population were ordained priests, cf. [F6v, “.xx. thousand prestes curates” and commentary note]. In 1500, one estimate would total 45.3 million Latin-rite Christians: British Isles (4), Iberia (8.3), France and the Low Countries (16), Italy (5.5) Germany (7), Scandinavia (.5), Poland (2), and Hungary (2); 8.25 million Orthodox Christians: Greece (.75), the Balkans (1.5), and Russia (6); 16.25 million Muslims in the Ottoman Empire : Greece (.75), the Balkans (1.5), Asia Minor (6), Syria (2), Egypt (2.5), and North Africa (3.5). Cf. Glenn T. Trewartha, A Geography of Population: World Patterns (New York: John Wiley & Sons, 1969) 21, Table 1.3. This table does not include Jews in Italy, Germany, Poland, and Russia. For a discussion of the proportion of Christians to Muslims, cf. [D7v, “.v. tymes mo then we” and commentary note].

Mariage forbidden & whoredom allowed.[[1573]