VOLUME 3

AN ANSWERE VNTO SIR THOMAS MORES DIALOGE

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KEY Commentary Side Textual Bibliographic Scriptural
iij.

iij.] The iij. Chapter. [1573]

In the thrid chapter and in the chapter folowynge / he vttereth how fleshly minded he is / and how beestly he imageneth of God / as Paule saith .1. corin. 2. the naturall man can not vnderstond the thinges of the spirite of God. He thinketh of God / as he doeth of his cardenall / that he is a monstre / pleased when men flater him / and if of whatsoeuer frailte it be / men breake his commaundementes / he is then raginge mad as the pope is and seketh to be venged. Naye / God is euer fatherly minded toward the electe membres of his church. He loued them yer the world beganne / in Christ. Ephe. 1. He loueth them / while they be yet evell and his enimies in their hertes / yer they be come vn to the knowlege of his sone christe / and yer his law be written in their hertes: as a father loueth his younge sonne / whyle he is yet euell and yer it know the fathers law to consent therto.

how beestly he imageneth of God. More holds that some of the reprobate can be found inside the visible church and that some of the elect can be found outside it, "and bothe the one and the other without reason or good cause why" (CWM 6/1.197/33–34). Perhaps for this statement, Tyndale thinks that Dialogue Bk. 2, Ch. 3–4 presents God as a monster (cf. [I4v, “He thinketh of God . . . monstre”]). Later, Tyndale claims that the doctrine of purgatory makes God into a tyrant for punishing a soul already forgiven ([M1, “There is no father . . . M1v . . . lust of a tirant”]). Dialogue claims (6/1.403/1) that Lutheran teaching on predestination casts God as a tyrant ([P4v, “god . . . tirantes” and commentary note]). For God as an unapproachable monarch, cf. [K1v, “aftir the similitude of wordely tirantes” and commentary note; and K2, “He likeneth god to worldly tirantes”].

1. Corin. 2. [1531]

naturall man . . . spirite of God. Cf. 1 Cor. 2.14.

1 Corinthians 2.14

The naturall & carnall man sauoreth not the things that be of God.[1573]

if . . . venged. Because Tyndale believes that salvation depends on absolute trust in Christ's merits, he excuses the temporary "frailte" ([I4v]) of the elect. Because More believes in the cooperation of divine grace and human action, he emphasizes "malycyous wyll" in sinners, cf. CWM 6/1.197/30.

yer . . . Christ. Cf. Eph. 1.4.

Ephesians 1.4

He . . . enimies. Cf. Rom. 5.8.

Romans 5.8

Roman. 5. [1531]

Jeremiah 31.33

And aftir they be once actually of his church and the law of God and faith of christ written in their hertes / their hertes neuer synne any moare / though as Paule saith .Roman. vij. the flesh doeth in them that the spirite wold not. And when they synne of frailte / God ceaseth not to loue them styll / though he be angrie / to put a crosse of tribulacions vppon their backes / to purge them and to subdue the flesh vn to the spirite or to al to breake their consciences with threateninge of the lawe and to feare them with hell. As a father when his sonne offendeth him feareth him with the rod / but hateth him not.

God is fatherly to his elect members.[1573]

Roma. 7. [1531]

flesh . . . not. Cf. Rom. 7.19.

Romans 7.19

If we sinne of frailtie God is mercifull & ready to forgeue.[1573]