VOLUME 3

AN ANSWERE VNTO SIR THOMAS MORES DIALOGE

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KEY Commentary Side Textual Bibliographic Scriptural

haue gonne quite. And therto all the dukes and lordes that cleaue vn to the worde of god thys daye / were no lesse combred with their comen people then other men.

marten . . . other men. Cf. CWM 6/1.369/6–30. It was common among Catholics to charge that Luther's writings caused the peasant uprisings in Germany in 1525. Cf. Mark U. Edwards, "Lutherschmäung? Catholics on Luther's Responsibility for the Peasants'War," Catholic Historical Review 76 (1990) 461–80; Printing, Propaganda, and Martin Luther (Berkeley: U of California P, 1994) 149–62,209–13. Tyndale had already denied Luther's responsibility in Obedience (C5). Tyndale's ingenious rebuttal seems to rest on his memories of Wittenberg just after the princes crushed the peasant bands at Frankenhausen on 15 May 1525. Later that month, the new Saxon Elector, Duke Johann, visited Wittenberg with his retinue . On 1 June, Johann had seventeen peasant rebel leaders beheaded at Eisleben (WA Briefwechsel 3.520n1; not in LW). Other princes of Lutheran persuasion who put down the rebellion were Philip of Hesse and the Counts of Mansfeld. (JW) At first, Luther was sympathetic to the peasants' cause, in Admonition to Peace: a Reply to the Twelve Articles of the Peasants in Swabia (WA 18.291–334; LW 46.17–43), but later he condemned their violence in Against the Robbing and Murdering Hordes of Peasants (WA 18.357–61; LW 46.49–55). Erasmus comments on the great loss of life, "[T]his bloody crisis . . . sent about 100,000 peasants into the world of Orcus." From Ep. 1633, To Daniel Mauch, Basel, 10 October 1525 (Allen 6.199/17–18; CWE 11.325/20–326/21). Modern historians estimate that "between 70,000 and 100,000 peasants were killed in Germany in 1525." Cf. Steven Ozment, The Age of Reform, 1250–1550: An Intellectual and Religious History of Late Medieval and Reformation Europe (New Haven: Yale UP, 1980) 284. Erasmus gives a partial justification for the Peasants' War. Cf. Ep. 2328, To <Lorenzo Campegio>, Freiburg, 24 June 1530 (Allen 8.447–51; not yet in CWE).

Then after the lowdest maner he setteth out the cruelnesse of the emproures soudioures whych they vsed at Rome: but he maketh no mencion of the treason which holy church wrought secretly / were with the men off warre were so set on fire.

they saye ... set on fire. In answering Dialogue's Bk. 4, Ch. 7, Tyndale inadvertently omits the heading "vij."

Then ... set on fire. More attributes the 1527 Sack of Rome to Lutheran soldiers, cf. CWM 6/1.370/28–372/20 and Appendix C, 773–77. Tyndale retorts that Clement VII brought the disaster upon himself by treacherously entering alliances against Emperor Charles V. On these, cf. Judith Hook, The Sack of Rome 1527 (London: Macmillan, 1972) 43, 51–61. Charles V had also charged papal culpability, and his Latin secretary Alfonso de Valdés formulated it in his 1529 "Dialogue of Lactancio and an Archdeacon," ed. and tr. John E. Longhurst, Alfonso de Valdés and the Sack of Rome (Albuquerque: U of New Mexico P, 1952). (JW)

viij.

M. what good dede will he do / that beleueth marten / how that we haue no frewill to do any good with the helpe of grace?T. O poete with out shame.

what good dede . . . grace. Cf. CWM 6/1.373/18–20, 8/3.1315–35. On our inability to do good, Unio Dissidentium (1.K4v) quotes Augustine, Sermon 156, Rom. 8.12–17, Against the Pelagians (AD 419) Par. 12 (PL 38.8 56; Rotelle 3/5.103–4).

M. what harme shal he care to forbere / that beleueth luther / how god alone / with out oure will worketh all the misheue that they doo.T. O naturall sonne of the father of all lies.

what harme . . . doo. Cf. CWM 6/1.373/23–24.

M. what shall he care / how longe he liue in synne that beleueth luther / that he shall after thys life / fele nether good ner evell in bodye ner soule vntyll the daye of dome?T. Christ and hys appostles taught no nother / but warned to loke for christes cominge agayne euery houre. Which cominge agayne / because ye beleue will neuer be therfore haue ye fained that other marchaundice.

what shall . . . daye of dome. Cf. CWM 6/1.373/26–28. For soul sleep, cf. 177/15–19, 182/2–8 nn. (JW)

1:89/7–8 warned . . . houre. Cf. Matt. 24.44, Mark 13.33, Luke 21.36.

M. Martens bokes be open / if ye will not beleue vs. T. Naye / ye haue shutt them vpp and therfore be bold to saie what ye liste.

Martens bokes . . . beleue vs. Cf. CWM 6/1.373/32–33.

M. they liue as they teach and teach as they liue. T. but nether teach ner liue as other lye on them.

they liue as they teach and teach as they liue. Cf. CWM 6/1.374/5. Tyndale reverses the order of More's antithetical clauses .

ix.

M. though the turke offer pleasures vn to the receauers and deeth vn to the refusers of his

pleasures . . . refusers. Cf. CWM 6/1.374/20–21.