VOLUME 3

AN ANSWERE VNTO SIR THOMAS MORES DIALOGE

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KEY Commentary Side Textual Bibliographic Scriptural

Mores conscience / seinge they haue no deuocion vn to the poore which are as christes awne person and for whom Christe hath sofered his passion that we shuld be kynd to them and whom to visett with oure almes is gods commaundement / with what minde doo they offer so greate treasure / to the garnessinge of shrines / images and reliques? It is manyfest that they which loue not gods commaundement / can do nothynge godly. Wherfore soch offeringes come of a false faith / so that they thinke them better then workes commaunded by god and beleue to be iustified therby. And therfore are they but imageseruice .

A sure token of a false faith and imageseruice [1531]

the poore . . . them. Cf. Matt. 25.35–40.

] Matthew

almes . . . commaundement. Cf. Luke 12.33.

] Luke

And when he saith / we might as well rebuke the powringe of the annoyntment on Christes heed. Nay / Christe was then mortall as well as we / and vsed soch thinges as we doo / and it refreshed his body. But and if thou woldest now powre soch on his image to doo him pleasure / I wold rebuke it.

we . . . heed. Cf. CWM 6/1.49/21–22. powringe . . . heed. Cf. Matt. 26.7, Mark 14.3.

Matt. 26.7, Mark 14.3

A difference betwene Christes naturall body, and a paynted Image.[1573]

iij.

iij.] The third Chapter. [1573]

In the third Chapter he bringeth in miracles done at S. Steuens tombe. I answere that the miracles done at saintes tombes / were done for the same purpose that the miracles which they did when they were aliue / were done: even to prouoke vn to the faith of their doctrine / and not to trust in the place or in bones or in the saint. As Paul sent his napken to heale the seke / not that men shuld put trust in his napkin / but beleue his preachinge.

Miracles [1531]

S. Steuens tombe. After Stephen's tomb was discovered near Jerusalem in 415, his relics were widely distributed (Rotelle 3/9.125n). Cf. Augustine's Sermon 318 (AD 425) preached at the installation of some of these relics at Hippo, Par. 1 (PL 38.1437–38; Rotelle 3/9.147). The Golden Legend quotes The City of God 22.8 (AD 413–27) (CCL 48.821–24; 1NPNF 2.488–90), on miracles that occurred when sufferers came into contact with the relics of Stephen (GL 1.48–49).

Miracles were done by the saints to confirme theyr doctrine.[1573]

As . . . seke. Cf. Acts 19.12.

] Acts

the miracles . . . preachinge. Tyndale's emphasis on the saints as transmitters of doctrine is a creative variation on the Reformation argument over their role. In early works Luther associated Christ and the saints as helpers of all who by faith are in communion with them, The Blessed Sacrament and the Brotherhoods, 1519 (WA 2.744–45, 748; LW 35.52–54, 58). Luther could observe critically that feast days in honor of the saints have multiplied excessively and are not celebrated religiously, cf. Treatise on Good Works, 1520 (WA 6.229/32–230/6; LW 44.55). Later, Luther's paramount concern is the lack of any warrant from Scripture for prayer invoking the saints' aid, leaving it among the abusive human inventions of the church: Confession concerning Christ's Supper, 1528 (WA 26.508; LW 37.370); On Translating, An Open Letter, 1530 (WA 30/2.643–45; LW 35.198–200). The Augsburg Confession of 1530 affirms the commemoration of the saints as models of faith and good works in their calling, but holds that praying to them for help is ruled out by Jesus' sole mediatorship, Art. 21, cf. The Book of Concord 46f. Melanchthon's Apologia for the Confession fleshes out commemoration into thanksgiving for gifts given the saints, encouragement from their experiences of grace, and imitation . But there is no scriptural ground for invoking them, even if we believe they continue to pray for the church on earth (ibid., 229–36). Upper German reformers, such as Martin Bucer in Strassburg, took more radical action in eliminating both prayer to the saints and their commemoration. Catholic controversialists went to the defense of venerating and invoking the saints, as in Josse Clichtove's De veneratione sanctorum (Paris, 1523) and Jacob van Hoogstraten's Dialogus de veneratione et invocatione sanctorum contra perfidiam Lutheranam (Cologne, 1524). Johann Eck systematized the Catholic case in Ch. 15 of his Enchiridion, "Concerning the Veneration of the Saints" (Fraenkel 173–90; Battles 110–21), arguing from foreshadowings in Scripture , from reason, the Fathers, and longstanding custom in the church. Eck wards off Reformation arguments from the exclusive mediatorship of Christ as wrongly dissociating Christ from those who are, in him and with him, mediators of intercession. The imperial response to the Augsburg Confession digested Eck's arguments , while highlighting how the Lutherans, by denying invocation of the saints, associated themselves with a line of medieval heretics whom the church had already condemned. Cf. Die Confutatio der Confessio Augustana, ed. Herbert Immenkötter, CC 33 (Münster: Aschendorff, 1979) 124–31, esp. 125. Johann Dietenberger , writing in Augsburg in October 1530, argued that it is permissible to invoke the saints because the church defines for belief and practice only what is obscure and implicit in Scripture. Cf. Phimostomos scripturariorum, ed. Erwin Iserloh et al., CC 38 (Münster : Aschendorff, 1985) 114–56. The title, "A Muzzle for Those Gone Mad Over Scripture," polemically implies that the reformers are rabid dogs. Underlying the biblical and theological argument for praying to the saints were the fears and anxieties of believers , for whom the saints were "friends in high places" and influential protectors. Cf. Delumeau, Part II, "Nous ne sommes pas seuls," 177–289.

And in the olde testament Eliseus healed Naaman the hethen man in the water of Ior

Heliseus [1531]