VOLUME 3

AN ANSWERE VNTO SIR THOMAS MORES DIALOGE

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waye. And other rule then thys ys there not: that the true are done / to prouoke men to come and herken vnto gods worde / and the false to confirme doctrine that ys not gods worde. Now yt ys not Gods worde if thou reade all the scripture thorowe out / but contrary therto / that we shuld put soch trust and confidence in our blissed lady as we doo / and cleane agenst the testament that is in christes bloude. Wherfore a man nede not to feare / to pronounce that the deuell dyd yt to mocke vs with all.

True miracles [1531]OX miracles are done to prouoke vs to the hearing of Gods worde, and the false do the contrary. [1573]

the testament . . . bloude. Cf. Heb. 10.29, 13.20.

] Hebrews

] Hebrews

Neuer the later let vs compare the mayde of Ipswich and the maide of kent to gether. First they saye that the maide of Ipswich was possessed with a deuell & the maide of kent with the holy goste. And yet the tragedies are so lyke the one to the other in all poyntes / that thou cowdest not know the holy gost to be in the one and the deuell in the other by any dyfference of workes. But that thou mightest with as good reason saye that the deuell was in both / or the holy gost in both / or the deuell in the mayde of kent and the holy gost in the mayde of Ipswich. For they were both in like traunses / both raueshed from them selues / both tormented a lyke / both disfigured / lyke terreble ougly and grysely in sight / and theyr mouthes drawen a syde / euen vnto the very eares of them / both enspyred / both preach / both tell of wonders / wilbe both caryed vnto our lady / and are both certified by reuelacyon that our lady in those places and before those images shuld deliuer them.

maide of kent. Prudently, More never mentions the Maid of Kent in Dialogue or Confutation. Here and in Obedience (T4), Tyndale refers to this politically dangerous case. After a cure in 1526 attributed to Mary, Elizabeth Barton became a Benedictine nun in Canterbury. Her pious visions turned political when she declared that Henry VIII would die seven months after he married Anne Boleyn. Fisher believed her revelations, but More counselled her not to meddle in public affairs. See Ep. 192, To Elizabeth Barton, Chelsea, Tuesday <1533?> (More, Correspondence 464–66). For his connection with Barton, Fisher was fined 300 pounds, one year's revenue from his diocese, but More's caution won him exemption from penalty. See Alan Neame, The Holy Maid of Kent: The Life of Elizabeth Barton, 1506–1534 (London: Hodder and Stoughton, 1971). Barton was executed, together with five priests, on 20 April 1534, the day that the guildsmen of London were called upon to take the oath of succession. Cf. Richard Rex, "The Execution of the Holy Maid of Kent," Historical Research 64 (1991) 216–20, esp. 219. Three days earlier, Fisher and More had gone to the Tower because they refused to take the oath which implicitly rejected papal authority. In her trances, locutions and fasts the Maid of Kent showed some of the characteristics of hysteria. Cf. Nicholas P. Sanos, "Witchcraft in Histories of Psychiatry," Psychological Bulletin 85 (1978) 417–39; rpt. in Articles on Witchcraft, Magic and Demonology 3.212. In her defense, see Diane Watt, "Reconstructing the Word: the Political Prophecies of Elizabeth Barton (1506–1534)," Renaissance Quarterly 50.1 (Spring 1997) 136–63.

The mayde of kent [1531]

The mayde of Ipswich & the maide of Kent were both false dissembling harlotes.[1573]

Now as for the mayde of Ipswych was possessed off the deuell by theyr awne con