VOLUME 3

AN ANSWERE VNTO SIR THOMAS MORES DIALOGE

LOCATION
KEY Commentary Side Textual Bibliographic Scriptural
XXV.

xxv.] ed., om. [1531], The xxv. Chapter. [1573]

xxv. Tyndale makes no comment here on five chapters of Dialogue Bk. 1, Ch. 20–24. In the section on "Whether the church can erre" [B8-C1], Tyndale answers in a general way the church's claim of inerrancy as set forth in Bk. 1, Ch. 18, 20–21, 24–26 (CWM 6/1.101–62 passim), cf. [C2v “¶ Faith” and commentary note]. Dialogue Bk. 1, Ch. 22 upholds the value of the liberal arts, philosophy, and patristics as aids to the study of Scripture. For Tyndale's negative evaluation of Aristotle and Plato, cf. [A5, “olde hethen people” and commentary note]; for his minimal use of Latin poets such as Terence and Virgil, cf. [F6v, “tirens or virgill” and commentary note]; for his qualified approval of the Fathers, cf. Cyprian [D4, “S. Cyprian” and commentary note], Jerome [D4, “S. Hierome” and commentary note], Augustine [D4, “saynt Augustine” and commentary note], and Gregory [P2, “S. Gregory” and commentary note]. Dialogue Bk. 1, Ch. 23 gives a positive role to reason in explaining Scripture. Tyndale holds that the will follows reason [C4, “The choyse . . . a mans reason”], but he emphasizes that carnal reason is blind; e.g., [C8, “blynd reason”; E8v, “Then . . . reason”; E8v, “Herof . . . man”; F7, “blynde reason”; and esp. L7v], "O how betleblinde is fleshlye reason!"

In the .xxv. how iugleth he / to proue that al that perteyneth vn to the faith / was not written / alleginge Ihon in the laste / that the world coude not conteyne the bokes / if al shuld be written. And Ihon meaneth of the miracles which Iesus did and not of the necessarie poyntes of the faith.

how iugleth he. Cf. CWM 8/1.311/11.

not written. In response to More's position "that many thynges haue bene taught by god without wrytynge" (CWM 6/1.137/27), Answer passes over More's account of the Holy Spirit's inscription of the faith upon believing hearts (e.g. CWM 6/1.143/4–144/7) to concentrate instead on More's argument that Christ's apostles gave oral instructions on some essential doctrines that were not set down in the NT (CWM 6/1.144/ 8–146/13,147/31–148/32). Yves Congar treats the background of More's position in medieval theology in Traditions and Tradition (London: Burns & Oates, 1966) 87–101, citing William of Occam's influential classification of the different types of "Catholic truths" on p. 95. Occam's scheme recurred in numerous late medieval works, such as John Brevicoxa's treatise (c1375), where we read, "The second category consists of those [truths of faith] which have come down to us from the Apostles by a handing down of revelation or by writings of the faithful but which are not found in Scripture nor are deducible from it." From A Treatise on Faith, the Church, the Roman Pontiff, and the General Council, in Oberman, Forerunners 72. Wyclif and Hus mounted a protest against this view, while asserting, in effect if not in exact terms, the complete sufficiency of Scripture for faith. Their 15c opponents, like the English Carmelite Thomas Netter of Walden, made "unwritten traditions" fundamental to their theological accounts of beliefs about the saints and the origins of the sacraments that lack a NT institution-narrative. Henry VIII's Assertio appealed to divinely grounded unwritten traditions of faith as vehicles of transmission of the church's faith regarding certain sacraments, cf. [H5v, “kinges . . . not erre” and commentary note]. Tyndale has already affirmed the sufficiency of Scripture at [B5v, “¶ Whether . . . B6-8 . . . “if nede requyre”] and will re-state it at [H5, “Now sir . . . scripture”] and [H5v, “Now the appostles . . . soule”].

laste] ed., kite [1531], last [1573]

Ioan .21. [1531]

al . . . written. Cf. CWM 6/1.144/8–12 and John 21.25.

] John

Ihon ... faith. Cf. CWM 8/1.311/11–12, repeated at 311/38–39.

And how bringeth he in the perpetuall virginite of oure ladye which though it be neuer so true / is yet none article of oure faith / to be saued by. But we beleue it / with a story faith / because we se no cause resonable to thinke the contrary.

perpetuall . . . faith. Cf. CWM 6/1.150/1–151/23, CWM 8/1.287/5–15 and CWM 8/1.406/3–5. The perpetual virginity of Mary was defined by Constantinople II (AD 553), the fifth ecumenical council, as a corollary to the definition of two natures in Christ (DS 214; 2NPNF 14.312); cf. also [C2, “Christes brethern”, N7v, “christ . . . chastite” and commentary notes]. It was restated by a synod at the Lateran (AD 649), called by Martin I (pope, 649–53) (DS 256). While they accept this belief, Luther and Tyndale do not consider it an essential article of faith. For Luther, cf. Vom Schem Hamphoras, 1543 (WA 53.640; not in LW). More argues that, following their principle of sola scriptura, the reformers ought to reject whatever is not stated explicitly in the Bible, cf. CWM 8/2.809/1–4.

The virginite of our Lady.[1573]

And when he saith many misteries are yet to be opened / as the cominge of antichriste. Naye verelye the babe is knowne well ynough and al the tokens spide in him which the scripture describeth him by.

many . . . antichriste. Cf. CWM 6/1.146/14–15. In [H3 side-note 1] 1531's "Pope" becomes 1573's "Antichrist is knowen." Below, Tyndale will set forth, on the basis of NT passages, his case for identifying the papacy as the foretold Antichrist, cf. [H6, “antichriste” and commentary note; and M2, “And finally . . . M2v . . . his swerde”].

Pope [1531] OX Antichrist is knowen. [1573]

And when he allegeth Paules tradicions to the tessalo. / to proue his phantasye. I haue answered rochester in the obedience / that his tradicions were the gospell that he preached.

Paules tradicions. Cf. CWM 6/1.148/3–6. In 2 Thess. 2.15 More finds two distinct sources of revelation, oral tradition and scripture: siue per sermonem siue per epistolam nostram. Tyndale affirms that Paul preached the same doctrine, whether in oral or written form (Obedience H7). See Ch. 11, "Holy Writ and Holy Church," in Oberman, Harvest 361–422.

] 2 Thessalonians

tessalo.] ed., tessalo [1531], Thessalo. [1573]

I haue answered rochester in the obedience. John Fisher (1469–1535) was Bishop of Rochester and Chancellor of Cambridge University from 1504 until his death. In Obedience (E8v, G8v, H4v, H5v, H6, H7-I2v, V7r-v), Tyndale attacks the sermon preached at the burning of Lutheran books on 12 May 1521 (Fisher 311–48). For Fisher's exegesis of Gal. 5.6 in this sermon, cf. [Q2, “out of which fayth loue springeth” and commentary note]. Tyndale does not mention the sermon preached at the abjuration of Robert Barnes on 11 February 1526 (Fisher 429–76). Fisher was considered the best preacher of his generation in England. Cf. Marc'hadour, "Fisher and More: a note," in Bradshaw and Duffy 103. For his life and works, see the entry by O'Donnell in Tudor England.

] Galatians

Paules traditions were the doctrine of the Gospel.[1573]

I haue . . . preached. Cf. CWM 8/1.324/20–21.

And when he allegeth Paul to the corin. I saye that Paul neuer knew of this word Masse. Nether can any man gather there of any straunge holy gestures / but the playne contrary and that there was no nother vse there then to breake the breed amonge them at soper / as christ did. And therfore he calleth it christes soper and not Masse.

Masse [1531]OX Christes Supper & not Masse [1573]

christes soper. Cf. 1 Cor. 11.20. Tyndale debates the more appropriate name of the Eucharistic celebration here and at [O6v, “Misach . . . pensiongeuynge” and commentary note]. For Tyndale's rejection of the Mass as a sacrifice, cf. [M5, “sacrificeth Christes body” and commentary note; O6, “the host ys no sacryfyce” and commentary note]. For his rejection of transubstantiation, cf. [N6, “christes natural body” and commentary note; O8, “Aboute . . . starch” and commentary note]; of consubstantiation, cf. [O7, “there remayneth bred and wine” and commentary note].

] 1 Corinthians

And when . . . Masse. Cf. CWM 6/1.148/8–11; quoted exactly by CWM 8/1.315/29–33.

There was lerned the maner of consecracion. A greate doute / as though we coude not gather of the scripture how to do it. And of the water that the prest mingleth with the wine. A gre

The consecration.[1573]

A greate ... do it. CWM 8/1.317/10–11.

Water [1531]OX Water mixed with the wyne [1573]

water . . . wine. Cf. CWM 6/1.148/19–28.