VOLUME 3

AN ANSWERE VNTO SIR THOMAS MORES DIALOGE

LOCATION
KEY Commentary Side Textual Bibliographic Scriptural
xxvij.

xxvij.] The xxvij. chapter. [1573]

xxvij. Tyndale makes no comment here on Dialogue Bk. 1, Ch. 26, with its message, "In all doubtes beleue the church" (CWM 6/1.162/2–3 Gloss). In the Foundational Essay, however, he deals with this topic under "Another Argument against the Pope" (([D2, “¶ A nother argument . . . D2v-6v . . . in the worlde”]), cf. [D2v, “their auctorite is greater then the scripture”; D4v-5, “I had not beleued . . . the church had moved me”, and commentary notes].

In the .xxvij. he bringeth Paul exhortynge to agre & to tell al one tale in the faith which can not be saith Master More / excepte one beleue by the reason of a nother. Yes verelye we al beleue that the fyre is hotte and yet not by the reason of a nother and that with a moch surer knowlege then if we beleued it the one by the tellynge of a nother. And euen so they that haue the law of god written in their hertes and are taught of the spirite to know synne and to abhorre it / and to fele the power of the resurreccion of christ / beleue moch surer then they that haue no nother certente of their faith / then the popis preachynge confirmed with so godly liuinge.

Paul ... a nother. Cf. CWM 6/1.163/34–164/3 citing 1 Cor. 1.10.

] 1 Corinthians

moch] more [1573]

] Jeremiah

All beleue in God that haue the law written in their harts.[1573]

power of the resurreccion of christ. Cf. Phil. 3.10. Tyndale's NT has "the vertue of his resurreccion" (Wallis 414/22; TNT 291C); KJV has "power."

] Philippians

And it is not vnknowne to M. More that the churches of late dayes and the churches now beinge haue determined thinges in one case the one contrarye to the other / in soch wyse that he can not denye but the one hath or doth erre: the which case I coulde shewe him if I so were minded. The olde popes / cardinalles and busshopes sayed yee to the thinge that I meane / where vnto these that now raigne saye naye. Now sir if you gather a generall counsell for the matter / the churches of fraunce and Italye will not beleue the churches of spayne & douchlonde because they so saye: but will aske how they proue it. Neyther will Louayne beleue Parise / because they saye that they can not erre / but will heare first their probacion. Also how shal we know that the old pope & his prelates erred / because these that are now so saye? When the old pope liued we were as moch bound to beleue that he coude not erre / as we be now that this can not: wherfore you must graunt me / that god must shew a miracle for the tone parte / or else they must brynge autenticke scripture.

The church must shewe a reason of their doctrine. [1531]

generall counsell. Louis XII of France (king, 1498–1515) and Maximilian I (emperor, 1493–1519) convened the Council of Pisa (1511–12), attended mostly by French prelates. Julius II (pope, 1503–13) condemned this potentially schismatic council and convoked his own, Lateran V (1512–17). Dominated by Julius, the first five sessions repudiated conciliarism, the theory that a council is superior to the pope. The later sessions under Leo X (pope, 1513–21) approved minor reforms of canon law, the Curia, the episcopacy and the religious orders. Historians note that this ineffectual council ended in March 1517, seven months before Luther circulated his 95 Theses (NCE 8.409; OER 2.397–99). Cf. Richard Marius, Martin Luther: The Christian between God and Death, Belknap (Cambridge: Harvard UP, 1999) 137–39. For Luther's appeal to a general council, cf. [P3v, “Marten . . . nexte generall counsell” and commentary note].

saye? When] ed., saye? When [1531], say? When [1573]

Popes may not be beleued without Scripture.[1573]