VOLUME 3

AN ANSWERE VNTO SIR THOMAS MORES DIALOGE

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dy / and had that same vertue and power wyth it that his very passion after wrought / whi was he sacrificed so cruelly on the morow and not hold excused therwith / seinge he was there verely sacrificed?

M. Item that there remayneth bred and wine in the sacrament. T. improue it. What is that that is broken and that the prest eateth with his teth / ayre only? if a child were fed with no nother fode he shuld wax haply as longe as his father. Where of then shuld his body / his flesh and bones growe? where of shuld that come (wyth reuerence I speake it) that he pisseth and soforth? all by miracle wyll they saye.

there remayneth bred and wine. Cf. CWM 6/1.353/37–354/2. More discusses here, not Tyndale on sacramentarianism, but Luther on consubstantiation. In his anonymous pamphlet Maynung vom Nachtmal (1526), the Swiss reformer Leo Jud tried to show a similarity between Luther and Erasmus on the Eucharist, but the latter protested in Ep. 1708, To the Swiss Confederacy, Basle, 15 May 1526 (Allen 6.337–42; not yet in CWE); Ep. 1737, To Conrad Pellican, <Basle>, <c. 27 August 1526> (Allen 6.382–84, esp. nn 1, 5; not yet in CWE). Tyndale does not enter into exegetical debate over the literal or figurative meaning of "is" in the words of institution, and he does not argue from Christ's Ascension as definitively placing his body in heaven. Both of these are of major importance in documents of Zwinglian provenance, such as Cornelisz Hoen, "A Most Christian Letter," published by Zwingli in 1525, now in Oberman, Forerunners 268–76. Zwingli's section on the Eucharist is found in Commentary on True and False Religion (1525), ed. Samuel Macauley Jackson and Clarence Nevin Heller (Durham, NC: Labyrinth, 1981), 198–253, esp. 206–16. See also Zwingli's On the Lord's Supper (1526), in Zwingli and Bullinger, ed. G.W. Bromily, LCC 24 (Philadelphia: Westminster, 1953) 185–238. A concise secondary presentation is Gottfried W. Locher, Zwingli's Thought, Studies in the History of Christian Thought 25 (Leiden: Brill, 1981) 220–28. For Luther's main responses to Zwingli and his allies, cf. 63/31n. (JW) Although he assigns the Eucharist first place among the traditional seven sacraments in Obedience, Tyndale gives only one paragraph to "The sacrament of the body and bloud of Christe" while he devotes five sections to Penance (M6v—O1v). For Tyndale, the Eucharist reminds the faithful of the promise of forgiveness (Obedience M1v); it is a sign of Christ's last will and testament (1 John H3). Tyndale asserts that the chalice was removed from the laity because the taste of wine would make it harder for them to believe in transubstantiation. For the same reason, the communion wafer is made as unlike ordinary bread as possible (180/25–27; 1 John H5v). Tyndale repeats that "the fyue wittes" prove that bread and wine remain after consecration ( Matthew p1v). This passage was omitted from the posthumous edition of 1537 because it was contrary to the Ten Articles of 1536. Finally, Tyndale outlines three positions on the Eucharist: Catholic transubstantiation, Lutheran consubstantiation, and, his own preference, Zwinglian memorial (Sacraments C6v—C8). For denying transubstantiation, Anne Askew was burnt at the stake under Henry VIII in 1546 (Foxe 5.537–50).

More [1531]

Bred [1531]

What . . . only. Cf. CWM 8/1.117/6–7. Aquinas asserts that the consecrated bread and wine can physically nourish the recipient: "Although the sacramental species are not a substance, still they have the virtue of a substance" (Summa III, Q. 77, Art. 6, Reply to Obj. 3).

Tindale [1531]

179/16–17 where of . . . soforth. The Victorian editor silently omits Tyndale's reference to excretory functions (PS 3.178). For other examples of bowdlerization, cf. 60/6–7n.

O what wonderfull miracles must we fayne to saue antichristes doctrine / I might with as good reason saye that the hoste is nether rounde ner white / But that as my mouth is disceaued in the tast of bred / euen so myne eyes ar in the syght of roundnesse and so is there nothynge at all. Whych all are but the disputacions of men with corrupte myndes with out spirite to iudge. Neuer the later when the prest hath once rehersed the testament of our sauioure theron / I loke not on bred and wine / but on the body of Christ broken and bloud shed for my synnes / and by that fayth am I saued from the damnacion of my synnes. Nether come I to masse for any other purpose then to fett forgeuenesse for Christes deethes sake / ner for any other purpose saye I confiteor and knowlege my synnes at the begynnynge of masse. And iff ye haue other doctrine teach vs a reason & lead vs in light and we wyll folowe. Christ sayth Ihon .vj. it is the spirite that quikeneth / the flesh profiteth nothynge at all / the wordes whych I speake sayth he / ar spirite and life. That is / the

179/18–22 The corrupt and vayne disputations of men to proue christ to be really in the Sacrament.[1573]

theron /] ed., theron. [1531], thereon. [1573]

Ioans.6 [1531]

it is . . . life. John 6.63, cf. CWM 8/1.313/12–13.

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